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Otwieram nowy temat - tu można zamieszczać wszystkie new'sy na temat battla aby nie zaśmiecać innych tematów.

I na początek troszkę linków.

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych] - fotki nie najlepszej jakości

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych] - co i ile drożeje w kolejnej armii czyli Empire.

Nowe wzory Swordsman'ów do EMPIRE.

SARGO

CIEKAWE ILE Z TEGO SIE SPELNI/ZISCI ?!?

Army Specific Rules.

Detachments.-Detachments remain virtually the same.

Empire Specific Weapons.-Repeater Handguns are now Move-or-fire.
-Runefang remains the same.
-Mechanical Steed. For Master Engineers, counts as a barded warhorse with D3 ST4 impact hits, the steed is WS1 ST4.
-Hochland unchanged.
-Repeater pistol unchanged.
-Grenade Launching Blunderbuss. 16" ST6 AP.
-Pigeon bombs. Unlimited range. ST4, small template. Works on a D6 chart. 5-6 hits basically.

Magic Items.-Griffon Banner 55 points.
Sorry there are just so many to list. Almost everything is cheaper. And almost everything is better.

Characters
Lords:

Elector Count.
- Replaced by Empire General.
General of the Empire.- Required to take magic standard like EC was in 6th.
- Same stats and points as EC was in 6th.

Templar Grand Master.- 15 less points!
- Retains same Special Rules.

Arch Lector of Sigmar.- 125 pts.
- Stat line is now that of a Warrior Priest, with the addition of LD9, and of course 3 W.
- 3 Special Rules are the same except now priest and unit Hate all enemies!
- 2 power level 4 prayers.
- Prayers are better.
- War Alter as an upgrade for all Arch Lectors for 100 points.

Wizard Lord.- Remains the same.

Heroes:

Captain of the Empire.- Remains the same.

Warrior Priest.- 5 points cheaper!
- 3 Special Rules are the same except now priest and unit Hate all enemies!
- 2 power level 4 prayers.
- Prayers are better.

Battle Wizard.- 5 points more expensive!

Master Engineer.- 10 points more expensive!
- Can get Mechanical steed for 25 points.
-Pigeon bombs as an upgrade for 25 points.
-Can take a grenade-launching blunderbuss.
-Cannot take any magic items!.
-Can join Helblaster and Rocker war machine.

Core

Free Company.-Will cost the same amount of points.
-Can be equipped with Great Weapons.

Swordsmen.-Points reduced to 6, including shield.

Spearmen.-Points reduced to 5.
-Shield add for 1 point.
-Standard 2 points cheaper.
-Champion 2 points cheaper.
-Musician 1 point cheaper.

Halberdiers.-Points reduced to 5.
-Shield add for 1 point.
-Standard 2 points cheaper.
-Champion 2 points cheaper.
-Musician 1 point cheaper.

Knights.-Same cost in points!
-Option of sheild OR Great weapons!
-Order specific banners.
-Will now have Orders to choose from like Chaos marks: White Wolf, Reiksguard, Morr.

Crossbows.
Are now State Troops.

Special

Pistoliers.-No more Fusillade rule.
-Musician for +7 points!.

Greatswords.-10 points!
-No longer 0-1 restriction!

Outriders.-Have Repeater Handguns.
-Outrider champion can exchange for a Grenade Launching Blunderbuss, Repeater pistol, or Hochland.
-Option of Barding, loses Fast Cav ability.

Great Cannon.
-Remains the same.

Mortar.-Remains the same.

Rare

Helblaster.
Roll Artillary dice for shots, then roll to hit.
110 points.
Strength 5 for full 24" range.

Flagellants.-Now T3.
-Become 0-1 Core if a Priest of Sigmar is a character.

Helstorm Rocket Battery.-Think of the targeting like a cannon bounce, then scatter like a mortar.
-St5, large template, 12"-48".

Steam Tank.- More like a Chariot.
- 10 Wounds.
- T6.
- 1+ Ar Save.
- Steam points to move.
- Large Target, Terror, Unbreakable, US10.
- Only configuration is Steam Cannon, and Steam Gun (which is now ST2 no Ar Save allowed)

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jeszcze obrazek dorzuce

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

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Zawartość Army Deal'a EMPIRE.

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

Model limitowany z powyższego pudła.

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

Moim skromnym zdaniem - bardzo kiepski model. Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_02

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Cytat:

So after reading about the speculation about whether or not troops are 10 to a box, I dedcided to do the obvious - Email GW. Here's What I sent:

Are you going to package the Empire regimental boxes 10 troops to a box? There has been a lot of speculation, and it can't hurt you to give a straight answer to your fans. The new models looks great, but please don't pack them ten to a box. Not only does this make us have to buy more of the same command sprue, but with the new five-men-wide rule, we'd have to buy three of them to have a decent amount of troops. Many veterans will not even buy a single new figure because of this new packaging practice, I can tell you for sure.

Thanks for your time, and I hope I hear from you soon,

-Ian Anthony-

3-year Empire general

Response:

The fantastic new Empire Models will be 10 to a box. However; they are completely compatible with the new hand gunners box (which also has Crossbows in it). The state troop box also comes with all weapon choices (swords and shields, spears, and halberds), and will mix well with the existing models that are currently out. There are more choices and bitz in these box sets then there ever was before!

For your more veteran Empire players, such as my self this means that I buy one or two boxes of state troops, put together one of each of the new command group (cause they are so cool!) and mix the other 17 swords and shield bearing troopers (there are enough shields and swords to do all 10 models in the box as regular troopers. You do not have to make any command models if you do not want to) into my already existing 20 man group for a nice size block of 37 models. Or I could go another route... Keep my old block of 20 the way they are (with the old command group) and simply add the 20 new troopers, not using any of the new command pieces (I will save those bitz for a new general or army standard bearer),for a complete block of 40 armed to the teeth loyal empire troopers to do my bidding!

To sum this up and answer your questions straight forward:

· Yes 10 to a box.

· All Weapon choices (to include Champion weapon choices that I did not mention above.)

· Ability to mix and match with other box sets

· Ability to make all 10 models core troopers! (Additional bitz so you do not have to make command guys!)

I hope that this helps!

Thanks!

Lance

No to moi drodzy ceny figsow zajebiscie ida w gore-

SARGO

Plan wydawniczy GW na rok 2007:

WFB Empire (Jan/Mar 07)
LOTR - Ruins of Arnor (Feb/Mar 07)
W40k DA (Apr/Jun 07)
WFB Campaign - Odpowiednik Cityfight w WFB - zostanie wydany zestaw z budynkami taki jak do CF:)
W40k Orks (Aug 07)
LotR (as yet un-named) (Sep 07)
WFB VC (Oct/Nov 07)
W40k CSM (Dec 07/Jan 08.)
WFB HE (Mar 08.)

Azrael88

ceny rosną a my naiwni dalej bdziemy kupowac te durne żołnierzyki, ech ... życie.

ziel0ny

Azrael88

Zielony: co ma WFB do realizmu? Czoppy są duże i fajnie wyglądają, u Orków funkcjonuje zasada "green is best i big is best" Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_15

więc po co się zastanawiać czy taką czoppą ciężko się macha czy lekko. idąc tym tropem należałoby się zastanowić jakie tęgi umyusły wstępuja do armii Imperium, bo figsy mają zdecydowanie nieproporcjonalnie duże głowy. Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_06

ziel0ny

Nie chodzi mi o realizm, ale o to zeby figurki ladnie wygladaly i sie prezentowaly. A po mojemu wyzej wymienione przeze mnie orki wygladaja pokracznie i zupelnie niezgrabnie. (ok, wiem ze orki z zalozenia sa niezgrabne, ale wiadomo ocoho :) )

Fajnie by bylo, jak sie patrzy na figurkę wyobrazic sobie jak zabija hordy przeciwnikow. I wymachuje z heroiczna prędkością swoje 4 ataki Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_06

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Jak patrze sie na te orki, to jedyne co mi na myśl przychodzi to to ze sie zaraz wyglebią. Tudzież, że zaraz ta czopa sie okaze za ciężka i będą ją ciągnęli do walki bo ziemii. Może sie czepiam dlatego, że mam troszke doświadczenia w wymachiwaniu siekierą Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_07

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A ci zieleni na dzikach to juz zupelnie niestabilnie wygladaja. Jakby albo wlasnie zlatywali z dzika, albo jakby dzik wlanie tracil rownowage.

pozdr

SARGO

Oto link do oficjalnej strony Mark of Chaos

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

z tego co widac beda to 2 osobne gry - Imperium i Chaos czyżby podwojny wydatek ?

Azrael88

gram juz w to i zbliżam się do końca kampanii imperium. Ciekawe ale wymagania sprzętowe są POTWORNE, Athlon 3200, 2GB RAM, 7600GT i gra się haczy a ładowanie planszy trwa dobre 5 minut!

Szczerze współczuje tym ktorzy kupia poskie wersje jezykowe, na bank wyjdzie z tego kaszana...

Ungrim

A widzieliście to?? Według mnie to trochę przesadzili Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_20

[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]

Może to się sprawdzi w UK ale nie w polsce...

SARGO · Wysłany: Pią 9:00, 02 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

Wiesz co ?
Czy przesadzili to trzeba by przeliczyć tzn policzyć każdy box osobno i porównać ich sumę do ceny tego wielkiego armii deala - wtedy było by wiadomym czy przesadzili.

Jeśli juz używamy słowa PRZESADZIĆ to herbaciarze przesadzili z nowym batalionem do Bretonni tzn zmienili go poprzez wyrzucenie 2 sztuk pegasus knights a cena ta sama - reasumując w nowym mamy:

20 men-at-arms, 16 bowmen, 8 knight of the realms ,1 pegasus knight

przypomnę że w starym było tych kolesi aż 3 <---- teraz będą pakowani pojedyńczo Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_46

to sie nazywa sqrw.....stwo Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_21

A cena ta sama !

SARGO · Wysłany: Pią 22:14, 30 Mar 2007 Temat postu:

i qrna mamy zmianę cen od 30 kwietnia - z oficjalnej strony GW ściągnięte:

As of the 30th April we will be changing the prices on a selection of our products. To give you as much notice as possible so you can get your miniatures at the current price, we've listed the major changes below:
THE PRICE CHANGES
Product
Price Band
Old
Price
New Price
Diff.

HALDIR AND CELEBORN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

LURTZ AND GRISHNAKH
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

SARUMAN AND GRIMA
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

FARAMIR AND DAMROD
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

UGLUK & VRASKU URUK HAI CAPTAINS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

DWARF BALLISTA
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

DURIN AND MARDIN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ELROND AND GIL-GALAD (FELLOWSHIP)
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

RUINS OF MIDDLE EARTH - TERRAIN PACK
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

DWARF LORDS DAIN AND BALIN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

HARADRIM HORSEMEN CHIEFTAN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ORC CHIEFTAIN (FT AND MTD)
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ROHAN CAPTAIN FT AND MTD
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ROHAN OUTRIDERS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

KHANDISH CHIEFTAIN (FT AND MTD)
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CIRION AND MADRIL
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

MURIN AND DRAR
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ARATHORN AND HALBARAD
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

KING ARVEDUI AND MALBETH THE SEER
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ABADDON THE DESPOILER
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CHAOS TYPHUS LORD OF NURGLE
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ELDAR HEAVY WEAPON PLATFORM
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ELDRAD ULTHRAN FARSEER OF ULTHAN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CAPTAIN LYSANDER
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TYRANID TYRANT GUARD
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CELESTINE - THE LIVING SAINT
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TAU XV8 CRISIS BATTLESUIT
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

GREY KNIGHT BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

HERO BASING KIT
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

MINOTAUR & TWO HAND WEAPONS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CHAOS TROLLS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CHAOS OGRE
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

MINOTAUR & GREAT WEAPON
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

MINOTAUR STANDARD BEARER
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

CHAOS DRAGON OGRES
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

EMPIRE GREATSWORDS (2007)
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

MTD ENGINEER ON MECHANICAL STEED
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

VON CARSTEIN VAMPIRES
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

BLOOD DRAGON VAMPIRES
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

LAHMIAN VAMPIRES
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

NECRARCH VAMPIRES
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

RIVER TROLLS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

STONE TROLLS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TROLL
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TOMB KINGS TOMB SCORPION
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TOMB KINGS USHABTI
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

TOMB SCORPION
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

OGRE MANEATERS
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

OGRE GORGER
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

YHETEE
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

BA DEATH COMPANY
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

SWORDMASTERS OF HOETH BOX
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

SPACE MARINE SCOUTS SET
G
£10.00
£12.00
£2.00

ROHAN BANNER BEARER FT AND MTD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

BLOOD ANGELS COMMANDER DANTE
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

MEPHISTON
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

CHAOS TERMINATOR LORD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

LUCIUS THE ETERNAL
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

DARK ANGELS GRAND MASTER
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

DARK ANGELS CHIEF LIBRARIAN
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

YRIEL - AUTARCH OF IYANDEN
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

OGRYNS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

CHIEF LIBRARIAN TIGURIUS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

CAPTAIN SHRIKE
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

NECRON WRAITHS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

ORK WARBOSS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

ORK BIG MEK
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

TYRANID ZOANTHROPE
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

TYRANID BROODLORD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

BLACK TEMPLARS HIGH MARSHALL HELBRECHT
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

KROOTOX
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

GREY KNIGHT TERMINATOR W PSYCANNON
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

BESTIGOR COMMAND
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

BRETONNIAN DAMSEL
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

MALUS DARKBLADE
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

EMPIRE WIZARD (2007)
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

EMPIRE WIZARD (FOOT & MTD)
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

HIGH ELF - TECLIS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

SAURUS HERO ON COLD ONE
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

LIZARDMEN KROXIGOR
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

NECROMANCERS
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

MOUNTED WOOD ELF LORD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

WOOD ELF WARHAWK RIDER
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

WOOD ELF TREE KIN
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

LICHE PRIEST - FOOT & MOUNTED
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

SPACE MARINE COMBAT SQUAD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

NECRON DESTROYER
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

ELDAR JETBIKE WITH SHURIKEN CANNON
F
£8.00
£10.00
£2.00

SPACE MARINE COMMANDER
F
£8.00
£10.00
£2.00

ROUGHCOAT SPRAY
F
£8.00
£10.00
£2.00

PIN VICE SET
F
£8.00
£10.00
£2.00

CADIAN H WEAPON TEAM
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

CATACHAN H WPN SQUAD
F
£9.00
£10.00
£1.00

Wybaczcie jakość przekazu ale mi już ręce opadają
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SARGO

Ładne - mnie się podobają w porowaniu z tym limitowanym magiem

I jeszcze pare ładnych modeli.

Nawet ładniutkie tez te ping pongi - Marcel to specjalnie dla Ciebie zdjęcia Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_02

A teraz coś dla Miśka i jemu podobnych green szajbusów Yellow_Light_Colorz_PDT_02